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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffBrad Leblanc Date: Oct 12, 2004 7:32am
Forum: etree Subject: Bad Metadata Used for MP3/OGG Tags - Does it Get Fixed?

Recently, this show was imported to the collection:

http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=18849

(great show, by the way, big thanks to Matt Varady for getting it to us!! Master tapes too!! Woot!)

During the import process, the metadata form for the filenames was filled out wrong so that they were shifted by a single track (Lonesome Fiddle Blues was the name given to the track that deserved Little Hands and so on). Simple mistake, apparently it slipped by Matt V. during his import.

So, I just went in and fixed the names. I waited about 5 minutes, then I downloaded the VBR MP3 copy of the show after seeing the change go through and the tracks show up correctly.

Only problem is, the ID tags for the MP3’s still reflect the imported/wrong naming scheme, so none of the names were correct when I imported the MP3’s into iTunes. (doh!)

This leads to my question – will the ID tags on the derivatives ever update to the correct meta-info or will the derivatives need to be recreated to fix this?

-Brad

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffBrad Leblanc Date: Oct 13, 2004 1:13am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Bad Metadata Used for MP3/OGG Tags - Does it Get Fixed?

Got an answer to this question. Currently, the only fix is to regenerate the derivatives (MP3/OGG). Jon kindly did this for the above show for us

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffgreenone Date: Oct 13, 2004 3:48am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Bad Metadata Used for MP3/OGG Tags - Does it Get Fixed?

So Brad, how DOES one regenerate the derivatives? If you uncheck the "no lossy" box on a page's details page, wait 12 hours, and then check it again, will that do it, or does it have to be handled manually?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffBrad Leblanc Date: Oct 13, 2004 5:01am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Bad Metadata Used for MP3/OGG Tags - Does it Get Fixed?

Hi Dave,

If you uncheck the "no lossy" box on a page's details page, wait 12 hours, and then check it again, will that do it, or does it have to be handled manually?

Unfortunately the answer to this is "it depends". :(

When it comes to derivatives, not all of the servers are running both the “create” and “remove” processes – some run both processes (newer servers), some are only running “remove” (middle aged), and some have neither process (oldest). Most of the derivatives reside on newer servers, but some shows had derivatives manually created by an admin in the past when the deriver process was first created. We can't do much of this anymore because most of the older servers are 98% full.

For shows that have arrived in the past 2-3 months, your idea should work correctly. For older shows, the process that creates the derivatives has not been enabled, because there isn’t room on the server to use it for all the shows that are there.

I guess your best bet is to try your idea above if you think the show is new enough. If it doesn’t work, fill out an error report requesting that they be recreated and an admin will do it manually when they come across the report.

Eventually all the machines will have both the “create” and “remove” processes running on them. That’s going to be a pretty large project because it involves building new machines with enough space budgeted for each show to have derivatives (roughly 200% more space than a show without derivatives occupies). Not sure what the timeline is for that though.

-Brad

This post was modified by Brad Leblanc on 2004-10-13 12:01:09